carnivalsofsilverfish:

avada-matata:

hyena-princess:

thefingerfuckingfemalefury:

corezi:

what TLJ probably meant: poor Kylo Ren look he had a reason to come into the Dark Side his own uncle tried to kill him :’((( it’s also all Luke’s fault, blame him, he gave up on Ben so easy!!

what I, an intellectual, learned form TLJ: if Luke “there is still good in you dad Vader” Skywalker takes one look at Ben Solo’s mind and thinks this one is irredeemable then well, shit, I absolutely believe him

Kylo: luke tried to kill me when I was just a child!

What Rey Should have Said: And if he had then you wouldn’t have DESTROYED MULTIPLE PLANETS

Kylo: …..

Rey: YOU SLAUGHTERED BILLIONS

Kylo: …….

Rey: YOU MURDERED CHILDREN WITH A LASER SWORD

Kylo: okay but Luke…tried to kill me…

Rey: Because he saw your future where you murdered children and blew up planets

Kylo: Okay but if I WAS DEAD that would be BAD for me personally

Rey: But good for the billions of innocent people who you brutally murdered

Kylo: But…bad…for me…

So

TRAGIC

Rey: I don’t think you understand how this “Sad Backstory” thing works

Not just that, but literally IMMEDIATELY after almost getting killed by Luke he goes and kills all of the other jedi-in-training who won’t follow him. His first action after almost being killed, because Luke thought he was going to be evil, was murdering people.

I still can’t find the logical connection here like why would that be your second step

Honestly, I reckon Kylo’s “will he be redeemed?” trajectory is the opposite of Anakin’s, because we’re cued, in TFA, to think he might come back – not by Rey, whatever the Reylo’s might say, but because he’s Han and Leia’s child. Everything since that is him consistently proving that redemption is not on the table. I didn’t read Luke’s consideration of assasination and Kylo’s subsequent actions it as attempting to garner sympathy for Kylo, I read it as FUCKING TERRIFYING.

The thing is? As it stands at the end of TLJ, the position in the story that Kylo has maneuvered himself into is not that of Vader. It’s that of Sidious.

(As an aside, I STILL hold that I’ll believe Luke if he says he was considering killing Kylo, but I don’t think he would have done it in the dead of night while Kylo was asleep. He would have challenged him in the open. I think he ignited his sabre because he wanted to see Kylo’s face.)