chuffedjunction:

zoologicallyobsessed:

zellabelle
replied to your post “ex-vegan friend says that cow’s milk has pus in it, please help”

You could not milk the cow if you just?? Let it’s baby cow feed like it’s supposed to.
If you take away the bby then obviously you have to milk it but if you aren’t needlessly removing the bby I don’t see the problem.

Plus milk is way too many calories and makes you fat. It’s not meant for humans.

expect you can’t just “not milk” a cow. It literally needs to be milked. Cows that aren’t milk can suffer infections (mastitis), pain and discomfort. 

And there’s many reasons for removing a calf from it’s mother.

And milk has only 42 calories per 100 grams. So no it doesn’t have “too many calories” or does it “make you fat” and being fat ≠ unhealthy. 

You shouldn’t comment on things you obvious have no idea about. You’re spreading ignorant misinformation and it makes you look like an idiot to boot.

Me again, I’m sorry for reblogging again, my responses are just too long for the repy button.

Dairy cows produce too much milk for calves, so regardless of calves suckling we would have to milk the cows or they would get engorged, and after a day if being engorged the baby would actually not even be able to suckle due to the swelling of the udder.

Calves are actually not taken away at birth, they are allowed to nurse and live with their mom for the first few days. Then they are seperated into calf hutches/rooms where they live with the other calves. They get fed formula every day and most farmers/farm hands are nice and give them pets so it’s not like they’re starved for affection. They can just look across the partition and chat with other calves.

Calves are also very rough. As someone who has scars on her hand from calves just a few weeks old trying to suckle on them, let me tell you how rough they are. Calves headbutt, chew, tear, and rip the cow’s udders very frequently. Udders are not as strong as most mammals teats after years of domestication, so they are fragile. Calves only have bottom teeth, as the top is just hard gums, but those teeth are razor sharp. My hand was in a calves mouth for 20 seconds before I was bleeding, because he wanted his formula right now. You can tell when a calf has been left with a cow by looking at the udder, which will be scarred and knotted. Sometimes the nipples will be so scarred that no milk can come out, leaving problems for infection and engorgement the next cycle. When the cows get sick of being hurt, they kick the baby in the head to make it stop, which is dangerous to the poor calf.

Leave the baby with mom sounds good in theory, but dairy cattle have been specialized and raised this way for a very long time. That means that natural methods can sometimes hurt them, and it is our job to protect them. Nature is harsh and lots of animals die and suffer. Our goal is to keep animals safe and alive even if it’s for the purpose of consuming them and their by products later.