Confused, I blinked at my monitor. Lazarus? Like the guy from the Bible?
Pretty much exactly like that. Okay, the three (four?) days thing is a bit hyperbolic, but this does seem to happen.
This is an extremely rare, extremely WTF syndrome in which someone suffers a cardiac arrest, people attempt to resuscitate them, and that resuscitation fails. The person has no pulse, has no electrical activity, is just…. stone cold dead. So, like sensible persons, the team stops, and pronounces the patient dead.
For some reason that is completely unexplained, the person then gets a pulse back a few daysminutes later. (Thanks to those who pointed out the typo!!) Some of these people die in the next few days; some go on to live healthy normal lives. There have been 38 cases reported in the literature.
The return of circulation seems to happen within 10 minutes in most cases.
Hey there nonny! Sorry to say, this isn’t a realistic scenario with modern medicine. At least in the ER, patients aren’t declared dead without an EKG (electrical activity), multiple pulse checks, rounds of medication, and a cardiac ultrasound which will let doctors see the heart move, or not.
ERs don’t pronounce people dead unless they’re well and truly dead.
In the hospital, rapid response teams will do everything except the ultrasound, but it’s still just… not going to happen. And in the field, EMS use clinical signs of death: rigor mortis, dependent lividity (blood pooling).
The only way this is going to happen is possibly in a nursing home, on a patient with a DNR order, and even then it’s almost impossible.
Sorry about the lack of drama, nonny, but I’m not sorry that we don’t have people wake up in morgues on the regular.
ROSC [Return of Spontaneous Circulation – Scripty] occurred within 10 minutes of stopping CPR in 82% of cases (23 out of 28 patients), with a mean delay of 7-8 minutes. The time taken for ROSC is unknown in 10 patients. Three of these patients were only found to be alive (one in the mortuary) after being left unattended for several minutes, and in seven the data was unavailable from the case reports.2,5,9,12,18,28 However, the time interval could only be an approximation because patients were not always closely monitored following termination of CPR, with a few exceptions.16 …
Seventeen patients (45%) achieved good neurological recovery following ROSC. Three of these patients subsequently died during their hospital stay due to sepsis and pulmonary embolism and 14 (35%) were eventually discharged home with no significant neurological sequelae.
Seventeen patients (45%) did not achieve neurological recovery following ROSC and died soon after. The outcome is not known in four patients (10%). There was no significant correlation between the outcome and duration of CPR, time interval for ROSC or the diagnosis.
You guys, I am literally now questioning every cardiac arrest I’ve ever pronounced. While there are only 38 cases reported, it’s very likely that this is under-reported.
The mechanism by which this works is unclear; one proposed method is that because we blow a lot of air into the chest during an arrest, pressure rises, the increased pressure stops venous return, and the person can’t fill their heart. They enter asystole, we call it, and we leave them alone. The air leaks out, and blood flow returns to the heart – and the heart starts again.
This is especially supported by the fact that the average time to ROSC after cessation of CPR is less than 10 minutes.
I will legitimately be checking my corpses much much better in the future. I had literally no idea the human body could do this, and it has never-not-once been mentioned in my education. I thought this was a holdover from the old tropes of vampires and grave bells, because we used to be really bad at telling when death had happened. Apparently we (me?) still are.
I’m going to go sit in a corner now and contemplate what even is death.
This is the Jataí, a bee native to Brazil. Like all bees native to Brazil, she has no stinger and is super chill (nowadays we have bees with stingers, but they all came from Europe and Africa).
They like to build their hives inside nooks in solid rock or concrete and make a distinctive tube-like entrance that is carefully guarded against predators.
They’re really tiny and aren’t at all bothered by humans getting close to their hive so long as we leave them alone – my grandma had a hive on one of the walls in her yard for over 25 years, right by the narrow staircase that went up to the second level of the house where my gran lived (my cousin lived on the bottom half) and those gals gave zero fucks that a bunch of pinkish giants would stomp by their doorway on a regular basis.
I could stick my face right by their hive to watch them from close up and so long as I didn’t disrupt traffic absolutely no fucks were ever given.
If it’s plastic, so long as you sanitize it first, it should be ok, but I would avoid anything fabric, since the dye might bleed into the water.
My main two things with putting Non Fish Items in a For Fish Space are Is it likely to mold and/or rust? Yes? Don’t put it in. Can you safely put it in your mouth/is it food safe? No? Don’t put it in.
These are great, simple guidelines 🙂
Also, if it’s for a betta, be very careful of even slightly sharp edges like pointy leaves. Betta fins tear very easily, and any projecting edges will eventually be brushed up against.
THIS is what i mean when I say animal rights groups are absolute garbage that waste time, resources and money, all whilst doing nothing for animal’s welfare.
peta have ruined a person’s life and career over a fucking photo. This is what peta does with it’s donated money and resources. This is what you’re supporting when you support animal rights groups.
This is such an ignorant and dense statement. You want to slam animal rights groups? By all means, target PETA. Call them out all you want. But the VAST majority of animal rights groups fight tooth and nail for animals to have some semblance of respect and not be treated as tools and products in a world that sees nothing past the price tag. I can tell you know nothing of animal rights organizations by the generalized anger you’re displacing about PETA. Don’t disrespect the hard work animal rights activists do through rescue, sanctuaries, law, politics, and public awareness
Rescues, sanctuaries, law advocates, etc is the work of animal WELFARE groups. Animal rights groups (ELF, PETA, ALF, HSUS, protection for furbearers, mercy for animals, and even greenpeace) are classified as domestic terrorists.
Maybe if they did some good you could defend this, but the issue is most of these groups have charges of falsifying footage and criminal cruelty to stage the “awareness” videos they produce.
Your local humane society, and animal welfare organizations are the ones on the ground rescuing animals.
HSUS is facing fraud and racketeering charges relating mostly to taking hundreds of thousands in donations to help victims of Katrina. Not a single cent they can account for helped any animal and worse they interfered with real rescue groups and put them in danger.
Mercy for Animals is under heavy suspicion of having staged the famous skinned alive tanuki video. A lot of their claims and even the footage which they did release (over an hour of cut footage was withheld even with court orders for it) contradicts their story.
the man has no clue what he is doing and has obviously never done this before
he is in street clothes not a butcher outfit like a man nearby
onlookers are confused asking in the local dialect why he is trying to skin it alive and commenting how abnormal that is which has been translated by native speakers
look at the pile. Why is it the ONLY bloody animal in the pile? Because it’s the only one that was skinned alive. The rest are bloodless which is how skinning a dead animal is.
it is more difficult, dangerous and results in a lower value fur… there is no rational reason someone would do more work for less pay.
PETA has been caught using clips from court confirmed staged films where criminal cruelty charges were laid as well as misleading about the origins of real cruelty claiming footage shot at a fox urine/musk farm of foxes with injuries to the bone is a “normal fur farm”.
The real situation was these were animals seized from a farm that had been shut down for cruelty before peta arrived and shot their footage before the vet arrived to humanely euthanize the animals via lethal injection.
Protector for Furbearers has criminal charges for catching coyotes and setting them loose in a small pen filled with barbaric traps that are never really used and filmed them suffering for hours in their completely staged film They Take So Long to Die.
How about Arctik films who has criminal charges and a signed statement from the man who clubbed a baby seal and skinned it alive was paid to do so by animal rights groups. The footage is still used by PETA and HSUS.
ALF has caused massive environmental damage mass releasing captive mink from fur farms into the wild. The release mink died slowly from hunger and many were run over. Those that survived? Decimated the populations of many species and may have caused the extinction of a bird.
Animal welfare is good- animal rights groups are bad.
Ps I’m an ex-member of animal rights groups for a reason. They hurt way more animals and people than they do any good.
PETA uses donations to
buy freezers to store the majority of the animals they take in and immediately kill
to make falsified ads and try bully kids into being vegan
pay bail on those who fire bomb labs- with people inside. You may not agree with animal testing but killing or harming someone who is just doing their job and maybe the only way they can make ends meet? Try justify that to their families.
Thanks @lilrabbitssong. I really really good break down on the difference between animal rights and animal welfare groups and why it’s important to know that difference.
Still one of the most interesting things to me: how people who don’t interact with kids frequently/regularly write kids, vs how people who do interact with kids frequently write kids.
Like… people who don’t deal with kids think kids are morons… I’ve also noticed this amongst ageplayers.
It’s the weirdest thing for me, maybe because I don’t remember a lot of my childhood, but like- kids? Kids are smart. Terrifyingly smart. They do dumb shit, yes, but so do I even as a sober adult with a decent credit score. Kids just…have no filter, focus control, or restraint after a certain point.
Kids will happily tell you step by step how to start the car and you have to tell them god no please don’t do that ever, but also will start crying because they want Italian ice out of the freezer but the icees are behind the broccoli and they can’t see past it at first glance so instead of just looking for ten seconds the emotional strain is too much and then you gotta hang out on the couch with them eating Italian ice until they can calm down.
Kids are just wasted.
Children aren’t stupid. They don’t know much, and their thought patterns are weird, but they aren’t stupid. They just haven’t learned much of anything yet and their brains are still working on logic.
Still one of the most interesting things to me: how people who don’t interact with kids frequently/regularly write kids, vs how people who do interact with kids frequently write kids.
I think one of the best things I’ve ever seen about this as good advice for writing kids if you aren’t exposed to them often was thus: “Kids aren’t stupid. They’re drunk.”
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